Despite living in a globalizad economy, where international trade is the norm and most of the products we use daily are manufactured abroad, agriculture is the still an island of protectionism. Farms are extremely protected all over the world. Is not easy to find a country that has no tariffs, subsidies or quotas for their Primary sector.
In Europe, the Common Agricultural Policy –also known as CAP—means over 72 billion USD to the European budget. But the Brexit has become a turning point to this. Since Great Britain was one of the biggest net contributor to CAP, Brussels must cut a lot of those subsidies and, gradually, starting a liberalization.
Are we witnessing the end of the CAP in Europe? Could this be a model for other countries? Shall we see an end for agriculture protectionism all over the world? We will answer to all of this questions on this video.
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There is condemnation of the CAP because it pays huge sums to wealthy landowners to do absolutely nothing with their land, paying them to protect the environment. Sounds daft, but what is really questionable is why these mega landowners can have so much inherited land, sometimes acquired during unsavory times in the UK's history.
These subsidies should be stopped for all farmers in all countries, they'll get a fair competition and we get it at cheeper price. Indian government increased the tariff on peas and that lead to a big turbulence in the market of processing factories which lead to crisis in the flour prices and their products and subsequently the citizens had to pay more to get the same thing just because the flour was made from indigenous peas. Why way the tariff increased ? Just for the VOTES !!! Appearently There are lot of farmers in India and if the political party wants to stay in power you gotta keep farmers Happy regardless of other citizens' problems. Is there any solution to this ? Probably we shouldn't apply these kinda sh**ty strategy to the next planet we colonize...
About 20% of food in the UK comes from outside the UK and EU (check Defra). Tea and coffee, nuts etc come from other countries. But having food with less food miles, grown more locally is surely a good thing?
well.. I am from the EU and I keep mentioning this agro policy as my 1st argument when it comes to where to modernise the EU. The argument goes = instead of spending billions on cows why not spend that on building up our human capital???! What about vegans and lactose intolerant people...all that money goes wasted for these people (for example)
Almost every country uses agricultural subsidies. The reason for this is simple: Their benefits extremly overweigh their costs. They lower consumer prices dramaticly. They protect the inhabitants of the state from the globale markets fluctuations. They help the economy because despite of the small percentage of people directly living from agricultural, exist entire industries solely to provide goods for the agricultural sector.
Poor research behind this video. CAP subsidies were long since " decoupled " from production. That's why they are now area based , so that they are not proportional to increases in yields. Cue the complaints about large land owners getting the biggest payments. There really is no pleasing people.
More seriously - 40 years ago when I left Agri College , there were 5000 dairy farmers in Scotland. Now there are fewer than 900 remaining - not much sign of protectionism there.
The CAP is rightly concerned about the depopulation and abandonment of Less Favoured Areas - the permanent rural population matter when it comes to keeping schools and services going . Tourists just don't stay around long enough to have the same effect.
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for historic pic: Europe was just devastated by WW2, many countries severly felt that they had been relying on imported foods , that just stopped with U-boots and so...
directly, a cold war with a constant threat for a WW3 had started..
So the MAIN concern was FOOD SECURITY : stimulate recovery and increase of food production in the EU, to guarantee not starving to death if international shipping would suddenly be stopped once more!
Du gaule did make it a deal extremely well for France, but else it would have been a EU consessus with perhaps national subsidees to do the same.
PS, Uk is still extremely incapable to feed itself without food imports from the abroad ... as it has been unable to for about 2 centuries now.
Why would Macron end or reduce the CAP subsidizes? Think of it this way? Who is the political base of Le Penn? the rural, farmers, etc. so by cutting the subsizes he is literallly undercutting his political competition. Think of it like this, say you get votes from food stamp recipients and another politician wins election so he doesn't sign the Farm Bill which is linked to those food stamp programs. In the US that is primarily city based people but increasingly rural people too but politically the politicians, Democrats, get voted into office because of city-poor not rural poor who get the food stamps and if they must start increasing food stamps to rural that is undercutting their voting base (urban poor). In a similar way Macron is using government policy to undercut those who vote and support his opposition.
11:40 that is why Macron is ending he subsidies or reducting them because if the UK is not paying it would mean the rest would need to pony up and France does not want to pay its fair share
12:12 notice how I stated it is big factory farms. Imagine that.
Let's get real using terms like 'farmer' so it turns out they industrialized farms back in the turn of the 20th century. Sure there are family farms and many large family farms, but by and large they reduced the workforce from like 80 percent to like 2 percent or something similar to that and increased the yield, but with that came the factory farm and corporate farms, OR they allowed owner/operates to own, say, chicken farms but only a few top producers like Tyson would buy their chickens to then process to sell at the grocery store. It is not a free market capitalism. Don't think of Ma and Pa owning a small farm. Again, some exist, but what is really going on is they are subsidizing corporate factory farms.
Didn't Macron say nationalism was bad and, what was the word he used? He said it was a 'betrayal of moral values' and "“Patriotism is the exact opposite of nationalism: nationalism is a betrayal of patriotism". Guess what Macron the CAP system is nationalism in another form. In fact, it takes money from all the EU nations and redistributes the wealth back to France.
6:56 in other words, what we think of as 'capitalist' nations the EU is riddled with and can be thought of as socialist nations, like France, and yes they have markets but they are not true 'free markets' and in some areas like agriculture it is essentially much heavier. A Swedish economist said 'Sweden is not socialist'. He stated 'it does not own the means of production'. Ah, well maybe we need a new definition, but when government limits, directs, and otherwise regulates the economy and what we call supply managment that is in fact a flavor or type of socialism. What we call globalism and socialism are very similar.
Is it really such a foreign concept that I don't give a shit where my electronics come from, while still preferring the actual food I consume to be from a place with the highest possible production standards and the most stringent regulations?
It's kind of the same with us fishermen in Norway. We have a tendency to vote for the same kind of thinking. I feel the world is getting smaller, and borders are going up everywhere. I also don't believe that the solution is to bring everyone to Europe just because life is terrible for the migrants. What about bringing European values to their societies. Use our power over big business and stop exploiting the resources what those people own. We have a good fishing policy in Norway. We only take out what our waters can produce. This is also in agreement with the eu. But 200km outside our shores any country can fish all they want. We need more sustainable solutions for everything. We can not just sell coffee and new fancy shoes to each other. GDP is only a measure of how many times currency change hands. Money is real value. You can save your money and it will still have the same purchasing value over time. Currency like cash and stock markets change its purchasing power all the time. Some people say save your money in gold. Probably a good idea!, but how about saving your money in something else like the fish in the ocean that grows back in a shorter period than 5 years. A fish has a 4-10 year lifespan. From a larva to 5- 30 kg. It only eats: first plankton(krill what is now being fished for omega3) then herring,and other small fish used for farmed salmon. Sorry I'm just a humble fisherman. I don't represent the big companies. I used to work for them and I have seen it all. Sustainability is a cooperation. NILS
I think this video misrepresents reality due to leaving out a very crucial point: costs due to regulations. Different countries have different regulations (for example: antibiotics, herbicides, stable construction, fertilizer use, allowance to plant certain crops or plow grassland, water usage rights, tax rules). Already within the EU this differs greatly per member state, which strongly influences the costs of production, often not related to natural circumstances. I think therefore it would be better to increase market protection and use quotas for products that are commonly produced in the own market, in order to ensure good prices for famers. Furthermore there should be some sort of control on farmers getting a fair cut of the margin of the final product. Good product prices will lead to motivated farmers who are not dependent on receiving direct payments. Product prices might increase somewhat for consumers, but on the other hand less taxes will be required for the direct payments to farmers. Furthermore, a 10 ct increase in for example milk in the supermarket will not strongly impact the consumer his or her access to food or purchasing power (as food purchase expenditures are a small percentage of total income), but will result in tremendous extra wealth for, currently often underpaid, farmers. This can be used for modernization, maintenance, hiring personnel, paying for complying with new environmental requirements, you name it. More exotic products such as certain fruits could still easily be imported without additional tariffs.
Plenty of stuff in my fridge and pantry from overseas. Here in Australia we export massive amounts of food, but don't have many restrictions on imports and we generally don't subsidise our agricultural industry. If we had the same sorts of subsidies as America or the EU we would be supplying the whole world with food.
You forgot to mention, that food in Europe is far more cheaper than in other parts of the world. The reason is subsidies. No politician wants to dramatically increase the price of food for many reasons.
You might want to talk about the corporatisation of the farming sector. A lot of those subsidies have been going to large agribusinesses, not traditional farmers. And then there is dumping, which is something the US excels at.
Australia doesn't have subsidies. It's been trying to lead by example since last century but being so small it's ridiculous to try. Though why you said it wouldn't be leading suggests that Australian farmers have direct subsidies in place still, when it's already eliminated direct subsidies of the type illustrated in the Spanish milk example. Granted there are indirect subsidies in the form of subsidised diesel and fertiliser but nothing remotely like the subsidies in the US and EU has been in place for decades. Now I'm wondering how thorough the research into your other videos is. :(
I am very glad the the EU is looking at recuding its agricultural subsidies though. They skew trade the world over, as do the ones in the US. I've never been able to figure out why the rest of the economy is happy to subsidise the agricultural sector in this day and age.
don't forget ! europe is swallowing migrants in the numbers i don't expect these migrants or even those who have been in europe to feed on european food culture, china town food markets and indian spices will need to be imported... ooh sugar that is found in 90% of european produce has to be imported and all fruits apart from apples and also cocoa , coffee, tea , milk jesus!! the list goes on and on. Europe is already fed by the world.
Nope they wont. They even want to increase it with a new law forbade gorcery stores to collabarate buying. This is a hit against edeka, lidl... Against the german economy again. Hopefully they will never implemant that law.
No, I don't want to eat cheap food. Food is not a smartphone. The same comes with medication. I want to buy food from trusted sources. Besides European producers can only compete with highly developed markets.
Hahaha many mistakes but it's a huge and complex topic.
1. CAP allow to balance the environmental advantage, if not you will have only crops, where it's the most cheap to produce.
2. Never a french president will be against CAP because farmer have weight in election.
3 . France give more money to UE that's she get back. Not like UK, thx for brexit!!
4. CAP allow to small farmers to produce prodcuts of very good quality for our gastronomy culture.
It's something difficult for USA to understand the place of food in our culture.
USA food culture is so poor and most of your products are bad quality.
The subsidies of CAP should probably stay in place in a reduced form. One of the reasons it was introduced (but not mentioned) is the strategic military reliance. If the EU were ever to be embargoed (economically or militaristicly) or there be a wide spread natural disaster, it is important that the EU is able to supply itself of food. So with the reduction of CAP there should be extra attention for basic food commodities like grain, corn, potatoes and others. Things like Camembert or Chardonnay are not life essential and should be given far less importance.
Hi guys. This is a very hard and complicated topic, personally, I am not picking side, because I know how the topic is complicated.
I just want to make a point. I live in Czech Republic, we were part of the Eastern Block. So when we transformed into a free country, our economics and agriculture was in pretty bad shape (what wasn't screwed during comunism, was stolen afterwards during Privatisation (capital letter is right there)). The quality of our food was horrible. The cheepest, shitty food. But in the last years a lot has changed. Things, that would be impossible to get five years ago are now in shops. There is big consumer drive towards quality. And with this, people are willing to pay more for their food. Things like Bio, Free Range etc. are booming. In our country, there is currently big back lash against cage-kept chicken (some big stores will stop selling eggs from them as soon as 2020). So I am pretty sure, that a lot of farmers will have oportunities to compete even at price disadvantages.
Also, probably the biggest problem with our agricalture is, that disproportionate part of the money goes to the biggest players. To those, who don't need much government help when one year is bad harvest.
Also. Our Prime Minister, owner of the biggest agriculture corporation in our country, was cought multiple times taking dotations that were supposed to be given only for small bussineses (setting up companies and getting dotations from his own administration).
In its core, the agricultural policies of Europe are a hundred years old, after the food shortages and famines of 1916-1920 and 1943-1947.
Sure, those also had to do with wars, but also with a lot of European countries relying on imports for their food. The wars showed their vulnerability.
Food is pretty important.
They dont go leave the protecion of agriculture in europe, Its the only way we have to compete to others nations inside the europe and outside, im portuguese im know that, we are one marquet in europe but we dont play togueder Its only one for self,
And if they cut the founds, they go put the union in cause, Its the base of union and we are adited to the founds Its the cheat way we have to compet to others european countrys and the world
If they dont give money we go put union in cause, we have better live in old coin escudo, them now in euro, today Its cheap it euro to buy tecnologie and cars, but the food and every elses in gow up prices Its a error for wus, now we are paying and Its a god paying
This was an amazing video! I think there is atleast a space for more open trade of fresh products in Europe coupled with a protection of a few core markets for security reasons. If you want subsidies you apply for a permit to produce "for the nation". That core group probably shouldn't be bigger than 7 products. Open up the rest of the market entirely.
As my Grandfather (Managed and built up one of the largest farms in part of the UK and instrumental in the creation of artificial insemination for cattle and so on) said about subsidies and protectionism, "it was needed at the end of WW2 but then should have been phased out all it does is keep bad farmers farming". I see how harmful it is here in the South of France, most of the wine around here is turned to vinegar and the farming techniques are very harmful to the environment. You may well have seen some of the farmers from around here playing a part in the Tour de France, other protests include burning rubbish on roads and round abouts damaging trees, other vegetation and the roads in the process and of course not cleaning up any unburnt rubbish at the end. Time farms were treated as any other business.
The EU break one of it's many subsidies?!!??!?!? ..... do you mean like get rid of subsidy payments while ramping up its tariffs and downright aggressive legal action? Because if it was that I would totally believe it. Ironic how you make money on YouTube vids.
For almost 14 years France has refused to allow the other EU member states to even formally discuss the total unfairness of the CAP. Now Britain is leaving that has to change because we will eventually stop paying billions onto the Brussels slush pot. But French farmers are highly aggressive SOB's and will stop traffic and combine with other trade unions to stop just about everything. It's going to be very ugly when other peoples money runs out.....
First of all, I do CARE where my products come from and don't buy anything I know comes from place with bad human rights practice, like Saudi Arabia or Israel to name only two. Second, I think PAC must be reformed and progressively downsized, developing sustainable practices on its way out. Third, consumers should face as unavoidable the fact that food prices will go up, reduce waste and eat better.
I think the test of real intent for the EU will be if they finally get rid of the QUOTAS on Mercosur beef. Will France and Ireland be willing to sacrifice the interests of their farmers for the sake of EU industry gaining better access to the huge markets of Brazil and Argentina?
Agriculture will always be an absolute necessity in any nation. Though I don’t necessarily like the ‘farmers’/corporate welfare’(government subsidies) here in the USA, I do understand to up to a certain extent why it is needed.
Most middle class people here have issues with it because of the widening economic gap between the rich and poor. Some farmers are filthy rich due to government subsidies but depending on your perception of the political spectrum many will argue that farmers don’t invest in creating more jobs with the extra money they receive therefore making many not confident in trickle down economics.
Yea well if subsidies were uniformed for all EU countries they might be ok but let me give you an example: A Bulgarian farmer ( i know you don't care but humor me ) gets a subsidy of 0.05 eu on a kilo of produce while a Greek farmer gets 0.50 cents. That Greek farmer overproduces ( plus their climate is more accommodating for certain produce ) and he creates dumping on the Bulgarian market at laughable prices because he covers his costs and profits from the subsidy. So subsidies are great thing if you live in a bubble , they don't work so good in the real world.
Our kitchens are full of coffee from the coffee belt & coconuts from Thailand. If you live in the UK you are probably eating spices & rice grown in Asia or almonds grown in the USA, all sorts of stuff from Kenya & Egypt. The opening gambit of this film is inaccurate. Have a banana & a cup of tea with a bit of chocolate! Get my drift? My cupboards are full of stuff from beyond the EU.
Ending protectionism in the EU would be really bad. That would mean that local farms would start to disappear and our food would be outsourced outside of our countries. Countries with no food sector would become totally dependant on food producing countries and by extent start losing their sovereignty.
When everyone is making as much as they possibly can and selling it everywhere for as much as they can get. It will lower food prices around the world. This is a good thing. It will drive innovation and spur cost saving measures in the ag sector. Could make great leaps in water saving and irrigation tec
I hope so. Farming is such a massive industry, yet it's so slow to modernise. It creates a disproportionate amount of countries CO2, it destroys wildlife (farms are just as barren as any industrial estate) and they are so backwards they make anti vaxers look sane. Honestly, farmers could vaccinate cows from tb, but countries won't let that happen.
That's not to mention gmo's they use and promote. GM companies creating herbicide resistant plants just so they can sell more herbicide. Ridiculous.
Agriculture products will mostly come from the US which has the largest production in the world, if EU cut tariffs to import more food. The reason behind is mainly for the exchange of America’s lower tariffs on industrial products, which can save German car industry from the tariff war, but it’s on the compensation of French farmers’ interest.
You forgot to talk about the nr. 1 reason for protecting the agricultural sector. A political entity that does not have a strong agricultural sector is really gambling with the life of it's inhabitants and putting itself in a very weak position in general. If a big war breaks out and your country/alliance has a weak agricultural sector... I think everyone can imagine how that will work out. Nobody wants that.
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